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"Catholic Bishops: More Exorcists Needed"?
This topic was brought up in AVEN. It revolves around this article (content shown below), which describes a recent conference held in Baltimore with the purpose of instructing bishops and priests in how to evaluate the need for, and perform, exorcisms. The discussion in AVEN broke immediately broke down into Catholic bashing, completely evading several possible topics that could have made for fascinating discussion.
One topic was the role of mental illness. It is only natural to be concerned that a case of 'demonic possession' is actually the expression of mental illness and that pursuing exorcism in such a case would mean that the patient would not receive needed psychiatric care. What this article is very careful to point out, however, is that part of evaluating whether an exorcism is needed INCLUDES extensive psychiatric assessment. The article mentions a member of the clergy would receive 400 requests a year, but may deemed 2 or 3 of such as actually needing an exorcism.
I find that number very interesting: a priest in a modern Western nation receiving FOUR HUNDRED requests per year. Where are these requests coming from and why? Now the article does mention that the rite of exorcism is much more accepted in Europe and other parts of the world. This shouldn't be that unusual, really. Most of the world's cultures express some form of belief in possession of a human mind by an external malevolent force of some kind, be they demons, spirits, or ghosts. Often, such beliefs are linked to disease. Shamanic practice, in particular, often involves coaxing an evil spirit out of the afflicted. This is usually done in conjunction with modern medical practices.
Now many folk hereabouts might think such a thing absolutely ludicrous. After all, what room can there be in the age of Enlightenment for beliefs in the supernatural and magic? My experiences and education, however, lead me to believe that the power of belief, itself, can empower the mind and body to do some pretty extraordinary things. Magic doesn't actually have to exist in order for a belief in it to martial one's mental preparations to achieve a particular objective, such as recovering from illness. Speaking from direct practical experience, one does not have to necessarily believe in an invisible life force permeating the human body to know the practice of cultivating Qi can allow a practitioner of Kung Fu to resist enormous amounts of punishment without leaving so much as a bruise or rapidly heal from injury and illness.
From the article, though, the intent of the Catholic rite of exorcism seems to go beyond that, leaving the treatment of what is determined to be mental illness to modern psychiatric practice. The Catholic priesthood seems more intent on finding genuine evidence of demonic possession. This brings up, as the article indicates, the nature of evil itself. Clearly, modern Catholicism struggles with two conceptions of evil, one explaining all acts of malevolence as being human in origin, and the other recognizing the manipulation of a malignant supernatural entity.
As a Wiccan, I do not possess a belief in the Catholic entity known as Satan. However, my own personal experiences have left me with a belief that the spirits of the dead can influence the realm of the living (the spirit of a recently departed friend decided it would be amusing to solidly kick my skepticism in the nards by leaving me a couple examples of material evidence for her continued existence in another state). To me, it is not inconceivable that the spirit of a malevolent person could attempt to influence or even control a living mind, particularly a vulnerable one. As such, it is really difficult for me to be wholly dismissive of Catholic beliefs regarding demonic possession and exorcism.
What are your thoughts on these topics? Did the article raise any other points for you?
Catholic Bishops: More Exorcists Needed
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NEW YORK (Nov. 12) -- Citing a shortage of priests who can perform the rite, the nation's Roman Catholic bishops are holding a conference on how to conduct exorcisms.
The two-day training, which ends Saturday in Baltimore, is to outline the scriptural basis of evil, instruct clergy on evaluating whether a person is truly possessed, and review the prayers and rituals that comprise an exorcism. Among the speakers will be Cardinal Daniel DiNardo, archbishop of Galveston-Houston, Texas, and a priest-assistant to New York Archbishop Timothy Dolan.
"Learning the liturgical rite is not difficult," DiNardo said in a phone interview before the conference, which is open to clergy only. "The problem is the discernment that the exorcist needs before he would ever attempt the rite."
More than 50 bishops and 60 priests signed up to attend, according to Catholic News Service, which first reported the event. The conference was scheduled for just ahead of the fall meeting of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, which starts Monday in Baltimore.
Despite strong interest in the training, skepticism about the rite persists within the American church. Organizers of the event are keenly aware of the ridicule that can accompany discussion of the subject. Exorcists in U.S. dioceses keep a very low profile. In 1999, the church updated the Rite of Exorcism, cautioning that "all must be done to avoid the perception that exorcism is magic or superstition."
The practice is much more accepted by Catholics in parts of Europe and elsewhere overseas. Cardinal Stanislaw Dziwisz, the longtime private secretary of Pope John Paul II, revealed a few years after the pontiff's death that John Paul had performed an exorcism on a woman who was brought into the Vatican writhing and screaming in what Dziwisz said was a case of possession by the devil.
Bishop Thomas Paprocki of Springfield, Ill., who organized the conference, said only a tiny number of U.S. priests have enough training and knowledge to perform an exorcism. Dioceses nationwide have been relying solely on these clergy, who have been overwhelmed with requests to evaluate claims. The Rev. James LeBar, who was the official exorcist of the Archdiocese of New York under the late Cardinal John O'Connor, had faced a similar level of demand, traveling the country in response to the many requests for his expertise.
The rite is performed only rarely. Neal Lozano, a Catholic writer and author of the book "Unbound: A Practical Guide to Deliverance" about combatting evil spirits, said he knows an exorcist in the church who receives about 400 inquiries a year, but determines that out of that number, two or three of the cases require an exorcism.
No one knows why more people seem to be seeking the rite. Paprocki said one reason could be the growing interest among Americans in exploring general spirituality, as opposed to participating in organized religion, which has led more people to dabble in the occult.
"They don't know exactly what they're getting into and when they have questions, they're turning to the church, to priests," said Paprocki, chairman of the bishops' committee on canonical affairs and church governance. "They wonder if some untoward activity is taking place in their life and want some help discerning that."
Many Catholic immigrants in the U.S. come from countries where exorcism is more common, although Paprocki said that was not a motivation for organizing the conference.
Exorcism has deep roots in Christianity. The New Testament contains several examples of Jesus casting out evil spirits from people, and the church notes these acts in the Catholic Catechism. Whether or not individual Catholics realize it, each of them undergoes what the church calls a minor exorcism at baptism that includes prayers renouncing Satan and seeking freedom from original sin.
A major exorcism can only be performed by a priest with the permission of his bishop after a thorough evaluation, including consulting with physicians or psychiatrists to rule out any psychological or physical illness behind the person's behavior.
Signs of demonic possession accepted by the church include violent reaction to holy water or anything holy, speaking in a language the possessed person doesn't know and abnormal displays of strength.
The full exorcism is held in private and includes sprinkling holy water, reciting Psalms, reading aloud from the Gospel, laying on of hands and reciting the Lord's Prayer. Some adaptations are allowed for different circumstances. The exorcist can invoke the Holy Spirit then blow in the face of the possessed person, trace the sign of the cross on the person's forehead and command the devil to leave.
The training comes at a time when many American bishops and priests are trying to correct what they view as a lack of emphasis on the Catholic teaching about sin and evil after the Second Vatican Council, the series of meetings in the 1960s that enacted modernizing reforms in the church. Many in the American hierarchy, as well as Pope Benedict XVI, believe that the supernatural aspect of the church was lost in the changes, reducing it to just another institution in the world.
A renewed focus on exorcism highlights the divine element of the church and underscores the belief that evil is real.
DiNardo said some Catholics who ask for an exorcism are really seeking, "prayerful support. They're asking for formation in the faith." Still, he said sometimes the rite is warranted.
"For the longest time, we in the United States may not have been as much attuned to some of the spiritual aspects of evil because we have become so much attached to what would be either physical or psychological explanation for certain phenomena," DiNardo said. "We may have forgotten that there is a spiritual dimension to people."
One topic was the role of mental illness. It is only natural to be concerned that a case of 'demonic possession' is actually the expression of mental illness and that pursuing exorcism in such a case would mean that the patient would not receive needed psychiatric care. What this article is very careful to point out, however, is that part of evaluating whether an exorcism is needed INCLUDES extensive psychiatric assessment. The article mentions a member of the clergy would receive 400 requests a year, but may deemed 2 or 3 of such as actually needing an exorcism.
I find that number very interesting: a priest in a modern Western nation receiving FOUR HUNDRED requests per year. Where are these requests coming from and why? Now the article does mention that the rite of exorcism is much more accepted in Europe and other parts of the world. This shouldn't be that unusual, really. Most of the world's cultures express some form of belief in possession of a human mind by an external malevolent force of some kind, be they demons, spirits, or ghosts. Often, such beliefs are linked to disease. Shamanic practice, in particular, often involves coaxing an evil spirit out of the afflicted. This is usually done in conjunction with modern medical practices.
Now many folk hereabouts might think such a thing absolutely ludicrous. After all, what room can there be in the age of Enlightenment for beliefs in the supernatural and magic? My experiences and education, however, lead me to believe that the power of belief, itself, can empower the mind and body to do some pretty extraordinary things. Magic doesn't actually have to exist in order for a belief in it to martial one's mental preparations to achieve a particular objective, such as recovering from illness. Speaking from direct practical experience, one does not have to necessarily believe in an invisible life force permeating the human body to know the practice of cultivating Qi can allow a practitioner of Kung Fu to resist enormous amounts of punishment without leaving so much as a bruise or rapidly heal from injury and illness.
From the article, though, the intent of the Catholic rite of exorcism seems to go beyond that, leaving the treatment of what is determined to be mental illness to modern psychiatric practice. The Catholic priesthood seems more intent on finding genuine evidence of demonic possession. This brings up, as the article indicates, the nature of evil itself. Clearly, modern Catholicism struggles with two conceptions of evil, one explaining all acts of malevolence as being human in origin, and the other recognizing the manipulation of a malignant supernatural entity.
As a Wiccan, I do not possess a belief in the Catholic entity known as Satan. However, my own personal experiences have left me with a belief that the spirits of the dead can influence the realm of the living (the spirit of a recently departed friend decided it would be amusing to solidly kick my skepticism in the nards by leaving me a couple examples of material evidence for her continued existence in another state). To me, it is not inconceivable that the spirit of a malevolent person could attempt to influence or even control a living mind, particularly a vulnerable one. As such, it is really difficult for me to be wholly dismissive of Catholic beliefs regarding demonic possession and exorcism.
What are your thoughts on these topics? Did the article raise any other points for you?
Catholic Bishops: More Exorcists Needed
AOL News
www.aolnews.com
NEW YORK (Nov. 12) -- Citing a shortage of priests who can perform the rite, the nation's Roman Catholic bishops are holding a conference on how to conduct exorcisms.
The two-day training, which ends Saturday in Baltimore, is to outline the scriptural basis of evil, instruct clergy on evaluating whether a person is truly possessed, and review the prayers and rituals that comprise an exorcism. Among the speakers will be Cardinal Daniel DiNardo, archbishop of Galveston-Houston, Texas, and a priest-assistant to New York Archbishop Timothy Dolan.
"Learning the liturgical rite is not difficult," DiNardo said in a phone interview before the conference, which is open to clergy only. "The problem is the discernment that the exorcist needs before he would ever attempt the rite."
More than 50 bishops and 60 priests signed up to attend, according to Catholic News Service, which first reported the event. The conference was scheduled for just ahead of the fall meeting of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, which starts Monday in Baltimore.
Despite strong interest in the training, skepticism about the rite persists within the American church. Organizers of the event are keenly aware of the ridicule that can accompany discussion of the subject. Exorcists in U.S. dioceses keep a very low profile. In 1999, the church updated the Rite of Exorcism, cautioning that "all must be done to avoid the perception that exorcism is magic or superstition."
The practice is much more accepted by Catholics in parts of Europe and elsewhere overseas. Cardinal Stanislaw Dziwisz, the longtime private secretary of Pope John Paul II, revealed a few years after the pontiff's death that John Paul had performed an exorcism on a woman who was brought into the Vatican writhing and screaming in what Dziwisz said was a case of possession by the devil.
Bishop Thomas Paprocki of Springfield, Ill., who organized the conference, said only a tiny number of U.S. priests have enough training and knowledge to perform an exorcism. Dioceses nationwide have been relying solely on these clergy, who have been overwhelmed with requests to evaluate claims. The Rev. James LeBar, who was the official exorcist of the Archdiocese of New York under the late Cardinal John O'Connor, had faced a similar level of demand, traveling the country in response to the many requests for his expertise.
The rite is performed only rarely. Neal Lozano, a Catholic writer and author of the book "Unbound: A Practical Guide to Deliverance" about combatting evil spirits, said he knows an exorcist in the church who receives about 400 inquiries a year, but determines that out of that number, two or three of the cases require an exorcism.
No one knows why more people seem to be seeking the rite. Paprocki said one reason could be the growing interest among Americans in exploring general spirituality, as opposed to participating in organized religion, which has led more people to dabble in the occult.
"They don't know exactly what they're getting into and when they have questions, they're turning to the church, to priests," said Paprocki, chairman of the bishops' committee on canonical affairs and church governance. "They wonder if some untoward activity is taking place in their life and want some help discerning that."
Many Catholic immigrants in the U.S. come from countries where exorcism is more common, although Paprocki said that was not a motivation for organizing the conference.
Exorcism has deep roots in Christianity. The New Testament contains several examples of Jesus casting out evil spirits from people, and the church notes these acts in the Catholic Catechism. Whether or not individual Catholics realize it, each of them undergoes what the church calls a minor exorcism at baptism that includes prayers renouncing Satan and seeking freedom from original sin.
A major exorcism can only be performed by a priest with the permission of his bishop after a thorough evaluation, including consulting with physicians or psychiatrists to rule out any psychological or physical illness behind the person's behavior.
Signs of demonic possession accepted by the church include violent reaction to holy water or anything holy, speaking in a language the possessed person doesn't know and abnormal displays of strength.
The full exorcism is held in private and includes sprinkling holy water, reciting Psalms, reading aloud from the Gospel, laying on of hands and reciting the Lord's Prayer. Some adaptations are allowed for different circumstances. The exorcist can invoke the Holy Spirit then blow in the face of the possessed person, trace the sign of the cross on the person's forehead and command the devil to leave.
The training comes at a time when many American bishops and priests are trying to correct what they view as a lack of emphasis on the Catholic teaching about sin and evil after the Second Vatican Council, the series of meetings in the 1960s that enacted modernizing reforms in the church. Many in the American hierarchy, as well as Pope Benedict XVI, believe that the supernatural aspect of the church was lost in the changes, reducing it to just another institution in the world.
A renewed focus on exorcism highlights the divine element of the church and underscores the belief that evil is real.
DiNardo said some Catholics who ask for an exorcism are really seeking, "prayerful support. They're asking for formation in the faith." Still, he said sometimes the rite is warranted.
"For the longest time, we in the United States may not have been as much attuned to some of the spiritual aspects of evil because we have become so much attached to what would be either physical or psychological explanation for certain phenomena," DiNardo said. "We may have forgotten that there is a spiritual dimension to people."
Not too surprising...
Me? If I run into anything bad I do what I can. I'm not sure if I'm strong enough to cast something out of anyone or anything but I know the Goddess gives me some leave in such instances.
One evening many many years ago I left a friend's house that was on an "active" piece of land and as I drove away I felt something not so nice following the car.
So on a that rainy night I pulled the car over to the side of the road and for lack of a better description wrapped the rain about the car to "fade" it into the background.
Didn't help. The "thing" just kind sat there behind the car waiting.
After a while as an impatient youth I got frustrated and reached out and...well..."zapped" it. It was kind of like I just snapped and released a load of power in it's direction. My mind classified it internally as a beam.
That drove the thing away and I continued the drive home.
After some meditation I got the information that I'd done exactly what was needed for the situation and there would be no repercussions from it. It's never been an issue since.
Re: Not too surprising...
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So yeah, friending. It looks like we have quite a few interests in common. Do you mind if I add you?
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Cheers and Blessed Yule!